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Thread: Commander Focus #28: Caroline

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    Excellent post Anakim.
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    Командир хороший это бесспорно. Но цена на него высокая. Могли бы к годовщине игры снизить цену. По моему все ваши последние командиры идут по завышенной цене. Неужели перетрудились сидя возле компьютера, рисуя новых, скорее всего вы потеряли совесть. Или ее не было вообще. Люди работают чтоб заработать денег, вы с этого кормитесь ничего не производя и такие цены заламываете. Не пойдут впрок вам эти деньги, как придут так их и потеряете. Вот и весь сказ. Спасибо за гавняную игру

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    Даже гавняный чат не работет толком, как и все что вы производите. Что это за иероглифы.

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    Ok, Caroline ate both SL and Azrael debuff like a buffett. She completely ignored SL special and Azrael too and she went off on my entire fleet one by one. I really mistrust all specials because I've seen too many that either don't fire or do and have no effect. I have Herbert on Ursa and it feels like I don't have a LT on him at all. I never see a shield because I saw an enemy Ursa one shot my Ursa and his force was under 1B (mine is 1.8B). The other issue with strategy is in order to do all these things you guys bring up, you have to know what their formation is. There is no battle in the game where you can see their formation. It really comes down to blind luck in so many ways. No one knows my formation in Arena because my defensive formation is my FS. Half my server does this so no one can see their formation and can't see what galas they are using.

    Galaxy League is a total luckfest, no strategy at all. It's all guesswork because that orange background means they are at least +7 but less than +12. So, you have to wonder if the enemy Ursa is really +12 surrounded by cannon fodder to keep his force low so he pulls in lower force enemies or the occasional high level force like me who sees an easy target who ends up on the wrong end of the battle. But because I don't know the formation, I have to guess and my best strategy is to avoid battles against Caroline and Ursa. I lose all battles with Caroline unless she is less than +7 in a 100 lvl formation. Sometimes, she's strong enough to solo me. With Ursa, I lose nearly 80% of all battles no matter what the force is. Sometimes I get lucky and the dweeb puts Ursa right in front for me to blow away.

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    Let me recover this thread!
    I'd like to know since there is half a year already passed since someone said about her price, is there infos on her price nowadays!???!
    Nice commander to consider of acquiring, as I think the price could be much more affordable these days then earlier!??

    cheers all...
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    Check here: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets...gid=2042558430

    This data relies on posts at Facebook, here at event recommendations, Line posts... So it's not complete but I suppose by far the most complete log.

    It looks like Caroline prices are pretty stable.
    Last edited by Nachteule; October 25th, 2017 at 21:35.
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    Ohh I see!
    Daamn...

    The chart is quite unpredictable since many of the higher endurance commanders time wise, did have only small change in prices until the 5th to 7th occurrence...

    I'd like to point out some of the commanders S5 and S4 here:

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    Commander   - Occurrence 10 times ... - vertical chart
    Azrael         100000     67500	58740	50006	25152	23100	22020	22000	12000	12000
    Armoray		75000	100000	64000	63014	62268	64000	38104	50000	40000	37560
    Burglar Kate	89672	80000	74216	72140	68490	62588	57600			
    Caroline	100000	77680	65800	65766	64452	61012	60540			
    Cryptor		72960	60000	60140	60140	52500	50980	56490	44000	40000	33384
    Dark Flagship	79730	76450	50000	24192	
    Fitzgerald	100000	61188	55232	35296	23880	19760	15000	17500	0	0
    Galaxy Lord	100000	73240	
    Herbert		67704	0	0
    Fearsome Devil	80000	70000	61940	57468	55380	48420	28420	0	14000	14132
    Brian      80000	78680	69926	0
    Star Lord	100000	71840	65192	58680	35036	28760	27610	26436	24360	16000
    I will just state here the biggest price drops for better commanders and compare it to T4F policy to see if there is some if ANY pattern here for US, the consumers... or as some say 'bang for bucks', if you want! The base value will not be first occurrence since it's always followed by the value that more less stays stable in third and fourth occ...
    So the base value will be second occurrence.

    As you can see, Azrael in 5th occ dropped 3 times from initial price in his 2nd occurrence,
    Armoray in his 7th occ dropped three times from initial price in his 2nd occurrence,
    Kate in her 7th occ dropped some 25% from her 2nd occurrence,
    Caroline in her 7th occ dropped only 10% from her 2nd occurrence,
    Cryptor in his 10th occ dropped just double from his 2nd occurrence,
    DF in his 4th occ dropped three times from his 2nd occurrence,
    Fitzgerald in his 8th occ dropped almost 4 times from his 2nd occurrence,
    GL - N/A
    Herbert - N/A
    FD in his 10th occ dropped five times from his 2nd occurrence,
    Brian - N/A stable, not going down from 2nd occ to just third,
    SL in his 10th occ dropped four and a half times from his 2nd occurrence.

    The color of red signifies stable and not so much if any price drops for the ships in the chart, while the green color means quite different prices since the 2nd base value of commander occurrences.

    I'd like to point out the fact that from GL event log times of occ are not included so this is just studied by the factor of only occurrences, so it would be somewhat different picture time wise...

    Thankz Nacht for the source and if someone can correct my mistakes here or use this as some pattern that I didn't spotted or realized yet, I'd be much gratefull!

    Concerning the chart here, it clearly STANDS OUT that Caroline is by far if we see occ factor and time wise factor correlated, overpriced !!!
    SO this, could be a form of red light for T4 to pull some G. darn handbrake here a bit ...


    Cheers, Thankz & so long m8's ...
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    Raksha[+13]/Lt. Herbert, Nicholas[+12]/Lt. Knous, Caroline[+10]/Lt. Kit, Ellena[+10]/Lt. Cynthia, Slade T-II[+10]/Lt. Louise

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    The price correlates with the playability I think and playability can be measured by tap4fun from sold copies of a DNA. High playability means slow price decrease. Caroline, Brian, Burglar Kate are all very versatile (Primus, PvP, Infinite Cosmos...) AND strong therefore price stays high. Shitty commanders drop in price rapidly (or get an overpowered lieutenant ability).
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    Yeah I could say so, but still, that doesn't give T4F any credence to stand out just this one commander on the same level as S6 comm's that are coming out just now! This is definite reason why T4F goes for acronym T4$, and one of many already why good playing ppl like Freddy are leaving this game, involving me as well if this continues!

    Chart tells it all m8's... Go and take a peek!

    And policy of non-empathy for it's faithful followers as well as clients (buck wise), is dropping them from position in first 5 most played Android and IOS games!

    we'll see what happens
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    Raksha[+13]/Lt. Herbert, Nicholas[+12]/Lt. Knous, Caroline[+10]/Lt. Kit, Ellena[+10]/Lt. Cynthia, Slade T-II[+10]/Lt. Louise

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